UserWiki:David Hedlund/Issues

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Tools

Todo

General - Team

Dependence

Subjective effects

Should the property `Effect::Ego inflation` be added to:

Cacti

Ketamine

2C-P

"2C-P is known to have a steep dose-response curve, with a very small margin separating a manageable dose and an overdose." - https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2cp/2cp_dose.shtml

"There was one report of an experience in which a single dosage of 16 mg was clearly an overdose, with the entire experiment labeled a physical disaster, not to be repeated. A consistent observation is that there may not be too much latitude in dosage between that which would be modest, or adequate, and that which would be excessive. The need for individual titration would be most important with this compound." - PiHKAL, https://isomerdesign.com/PiHKAL/read.php?id=36

MDMA

“Now I would advise anyone who wants to use MDMA not to take it more than 4 times a year if you want to continue to get the best effects from it, otherwise you risk losing its effects entirely and permanently.” - Ann Shulgin

Cannabidiol

https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Cannabidiol

CBD does not appear to have any intoxicating effects such as those caused by tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in marijuana, but may have a downregulating impact on disordered thinking and anxiety.[1]

https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Cannabidiol#Legal_status CBD does not appear to have any psychoactive ("high") effects such as those caused by ∆9-THC in marijuana, but may have anti-anxiety and anti-psychotic effects.[1] As the legal landscape and understanding about the differences in medical cannabinoids unfolds, it will be increasingly important to distinguish "medical marijuana" (with noted varying degrees of psychotropic effects and deficits in executive function) – from "medical CBD".[1]

MAOI

Can we copy/modify some content from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAOI#Interactions to https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/MAOI#Interactions ?

Responsible_drug_use

Add to https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Responsible_drug_use under "Reagent testing kits" [proof-read]

Test results for all drugs & substances - https://www.reddit.com/r/ReagentTesting/wiki/nps#wiki_reagent_test_results

4BDF powder. The pink color is most likely due to an impurity. The color of pure BDF is usually white to off-white, similar to most recreational drugs, so there is no way to distinguish between them by eye.[citation needed]

Most pure chemicals are white to off-white so there is no way to distinguish between them by eye. Discoloration is often due to an impurity. The chemicals can still be contaminated with other white chemicals though.

Minor issues

Site content - Unity

Including special pages.

  • Replace `lucid dreaming` with `Oneironautics``in "documenting all aspects of psychonautics (including practices like meditation, lucid dreaming" at the main page?
  • Please change "Youtube" to "YouTube" in the left pane.
  • I suggest that we rename the gift "DMT Entity" to "Changa". What do you think?

Chemistry - BronzeManul

Kenan trust your chemical knowledge, can you please mention that you. https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/PsychonautWiki says "Bronzemaul.png BronzeManul (Benjamin): This user is our volunteer for contributing a variety of minor edits, minor edits and more minor edits. They have a large amount of experience and knowledge within this field." Can you please ask Kenan to add that something about your knowledge in chemistry, so people know that they can ask you in the channel? Example: "This user is our volunteer for contributing a variety of content and articles regarding chemistry..."

Base structures

https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Category:Base_Structures

Uncategorized

Botanical and mycological - nami

Subjective effect index (SEI) - Josikins

Software

LanguageTool is a multilanguage (language automatically detected) proofreading browser add-on that unlike Grammarly: 1) is free software 2) doesn't require login for short text (long text requires the premium version). I suggest that we recommend it at https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Project:Guidelines or https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Content_Style_Guide_-_Substance. What do you think about that?

General - Team

Good vibes

These GIFs at https://psychonautwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Goodvibes (used in the image slide show at https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Good_vibes) can trigger a bad trip:

TripSit interactions

These pages don't have the TripSit interaction table:

Comeup and Comedown

We don't list Comeup and Comedown in the subjective rating scales which so people cannot predict when the Peak and Offset will occur. To help then we could make an argument that

  • the Comeup is the time between the Onset and Peak and that
  • the Comedown is the time between the Peak and Offset

However, https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Template:SubstanceBox/Lisdexamfetamine lists Come up and Offset (and I suspect they can be found in other SubstanceBoxes).

SSRI

https://psychonautwiki.org/w/index.php?title=MDMA&diff=132608&oldid=132601 "SSRIs & MDMA do not cause serotonin syndrome, rather the opposite!" - Kenan

Replications

https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Acuity_enhancement#Image_examples lists:

  • Tree Bark
  • Moss on tree Bark
  • Towel

Nasir-al molk

Nasir-al molk -1.jpg

File:Natural fractal close up.jpg

https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/File:Natural_fractal_close_up.jpg (uploaded from a deviantart.com user) can be replaced with any image in https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Romanesco_broccoli, like I suggest https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Romanesco_broccoli#/media/File:Chou_Romanesco_au_march%C3%A9.jpg

Rename the Bad vibes page

The cartoon techno videos in https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Bad_vibes are really nice, they doesn't give me bad vibes, I think Dark vibes is a better name for the page. What do you think @kenansulayman ? Think of it like dark genre names like dark psytrance (not bad psytrance), dark ambient (not bad ambient) etc.

YouTube video issues

Autoplay for YT videos broken

The autoplay is broken in https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Good_vibes @kenansulayman:

Starting position

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ&t=2h9m30s will start the video at the given time at youtube.com, how do I configure {{#widget:YouTube|id=mPqWstVnRjQ}} to start at 2 hours 9 minutes 30 seconds?

I need to update the Stamets videos in https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/UserWiki:David_Hedlund/Notable_experiences

Wood Lover Paralysis

Add this to https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Psilocybin_mushrooms#Researchms with a very elaborate description.

Drug precursor

Can I add a new category: to https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/2C-H ?

Psychological dependence

Can we mention 'probability' at https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Category:Psychological_dependence ?

Malformed tags

  • I've found '</references>' in several pages (example), it should be '
  • ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 Iseger TA, Bossong MG (2015). "A systematic review of the antipsychotic properties of cannabidiol in humans". Schizophr. Res. 162 (1–3): 153–61. doi:10.1016/j.schres.2015.01.033. PMID 25667194. 

    • '

    Dependence

    Subjective effects

    Should the property `Effect::Ego inflation` be added to:

    Not categorized

    Talk:Naphazoline

    Talk:Naphazoline

    Caffeine

    "Caffeine had no effect in those with the AC genotype" - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29509641

    Cacti

    Poppers

    The Merck Manual Professional Edition reports that there is little evidence of significant hazard associated with inhalation of alkyl nitrites.[1]

    Fentanyl

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fake-xanax-can-be-a-killer/

    Ketamine

    Kratom

    There are reports of physical dependency after frequent, heavy kratom use. Individuals who use it regularly or in large doses may find it difficult to stop. Withdrawal symptoms include irritability, yawning, diarrhea, runny nose, and pain in the joints or muscles. - http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom_basics.shtml

    Brown rice flour psilocybin mushroom tek

    "Gartz (1989) determined that psilocin levels of flushes were naturally low (.1 %) from a sterilized mixture of cow dung and rice (2:1), but could be raised up to 3.3% with the addition of only 25 milligrams of tryptamine into 10 grams of substrate. Furthermore, his study showed that at least 22% of psilocybin was derived from the introduced radioactively tagged tryptamine."[2]

    2-DPMP

    Add Effect::Compulsive redosing to Desoxypipradrol ?

    2C-P

    "2C-P is known to have a steep dose-response curve, with a very small margin separating a manageable dose and an overdose." - https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2cp/2cp_dose.shtml

    "There was one report of an experience in which a single dosage of 16 mg was clearly an overdose, with the entire experiment labeled a physical disaster, not to be repeated. A consistent observation is that there may not be too much latitude in dosage between that which would be modest, or adequate, and that which would be excessive. The need for individual titration would be most important with this compound." - PiHKAL, https://isomerdesign.com/PiHKAL/read.php?id=36

    headerpanel

    Remove {{headerpanel|{{approval}}}} from https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Aniracetam ?

    Bufotoxins

    Talk:Bufotoxins: "Taken orally, 5-MeO-DMT is actually inactive, and so licking a toad will expose you only to the highly dangerous cardiotoxic chemicals on its skin that are orally active. In fact, the only way to avoid the toxicity is to dry the venom and smoke it." - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/articles/features/tripping-over-psychoactive-toads

    MDMA

    I think Ecstacy should have it's own page. - https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/UserWiki_talk:David_Hedlund/Ecstacy

    Suggested cites to MDMA#Long-term_health_concerns

    “Now I would advise anyone who wants to use MDMA not to take it more than 4 times a year if you want to continue to get the best effects from it, otherwise you risk losing its effects entirely and permanently.” - Ann Shulgin

    "Arguably, it is best to take MDMA infrequently and reverently or not at all." - Alexander Shulgin

    "Keeping use to less than once every 4-6 weeks can help reduce both tolerance and chances of long-term negative impact." - https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_bits.shtml

    Templates

    Cite

    I need these templates to https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/UserWiki:David_Hedlund/Ayahuasca (see https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/UserWiki:David_Hedlund/Ayahuasca#References for the reference numbers)

    • Template:Cite
    • Template:Cite video

    They can be exported from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export

    These templates are mos likely used in other pages as well since they are common Wikipedia reference templates.

    Distinguish

    Import the common Wikipedia template https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Distinguish

    Add to Talk:Banisteriopsis_caapi: {{distinguish|the [[DMT]]/[[MAOI]] plant brew|ayahuasca}}

    Cannabis

    https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Cannabis

    Cannabidiol

    https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Cannabidiol

    CBD does not appear to have any intoxicating effects such as those caused by tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in marijuana, but may have a downregulating impact on disordered thinking and anxiety.[3]

    https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Cannabidiol#Legal_status CBD does not appear to have any psychoactive ("high") effects such as those caused by ∆9-THC in marijuana, but may have anti-anxiety and anti-psychotic effects.[3] As the legal landscape and understanding about the differences in medical cannabinoids unfolds, it will be increasingly important to distinguish "medical marijuana" (with noted varying degrees of psychotropic effects and deficits in executive function) – from "medical CBD".[3]

    MAOI

    Responsible_drug_use

    Add to https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Responsible_drug_use under "Reagent testing kits" [proof-read]

    Test results for all drugs & substances - https://www.reddit.com/r/ReagentTesting/wiki/nps#wiki_reagent_test_results

    4BDF powder. The pink color is most likely due to an impurity. The color of pure BDF is usually white to off-white, similar to most recreational drugs, so there is no way to distinguish between them by eye.[citation needed]

    Most pure chemicals are white to off-white so there is no way to distinguish between them by eye. Discoloration is often due to an impurity. The chemicals can still be contaminated with other white chemicals though.

    Minor issues

    Experience index

    Discussed 2017-12-29. Do not discuss this before 2018-06-01 

    Can I replace the manually added entries in https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Experience_index/Psychedelics (and all other templates used in https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Experience_index) with  {{#ask: [[Category:1P-LSD]][[Category:Experience]]|format=ul|Columns=1}} {{#ask: [[Category:AL-LAD]][[Category:Experience]]|format=ul|Columns=1}} and so on. AL-LAD is incomplete for the moment.

Even if this should not be done because you cannot rely and should not rely on categories for experience reports, why would a reporter want to be visible on a substance page but not on the index page?

    Operator - Kenan

    Draft namespace issue

    Main page

    Replace text

    Special:ReplaceText reads: "Please consult a system operator to do a text replacement without polluting the change log."


    Can you please use https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Special:ReplaceText to standardize all pages on the site to follow the link standard at https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Template:Substance_Breakdown#External_links:

    Wikipedia:

    Erowid:

    Isomer Design:

    Site content - Unity

    4-FA

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02791072.2019.1569286?scroll=top&needAccess=true

    "It uses the latest statistical techniques and psychometric scales to assess the subjective effects of 4-FA" - Unity

    LSD

    Chemistry - BronzeManul

    Base structures

    Psychoactive substance index

    Natural occurring sources

    @BronzeManul: So here's the new table that I need your help to fill:

    Chemical Natural source Base structure Substance effect class
    Aporphine Nymphaea sp. Depressant
    Nuciferine
    • Nymphaea caerulea
    • Nelumbo nucifera
    		 Depressant
    Caleicines and caleochromenes Calea ternifolia
    L-theanine Calea ternifolia
    Erythravine Erythrina mulungu
    Yohimbine Pausinystalia johimbe
    Yuremamine Mimosa tenuiflora
    Convolutamine A Amathia convoluta
    Capsaicin and capsicum Chilli Deliriant
    Triterpenoid saponins Silene undulata Oneirogen
    Grayanotoxins Labrador tea Deliriant
    Ledol Labrador tea Deliriant
    Atropine, Hyoscyamine, Scopolamine Atropa belladonna, Hyoscyamus niger, Datura stramonium, Brugmansia suaveolens Tropane alkaloids include cocaine Deliriant
    Poneratoxin Paraponera clavata (Bullet ant) Deliriant
    Muscimol Amanita muscaria, Amanita pantherina Depressant
    Myristicin Anethum graveolens (Dill) etc Non-psychoactive precursor
    Safrole Sassafras albidum (Sassafras) etc Non-psychoactive precursor

    I'll categorize the substances (once filled in the table) in:

    The next thing I'm going to do is to categorize artificial chemicals under Other in:

    PiHKAL

    Essential amphetamines

    @BronzeManul: There are 12 substances in PiHKAL#Essential_amphetamines (see below list) but Shulgin mention 10. We could mention the other two in a separate list after Shulgin's Ten Essential Amphetamines list. Can you please have a look a this later? I think we should include the disclaimer ""One must remember that the term "essential" has nothing to do with the meaning of needed..." that I mention below. --David Hedlund (talk) 10:55, 7 January 2018 (CET)

    The Ten Essential Amphetamines are what Shulgin describes as ten amphetamines that differ from natural products such as safrole or myristicin by an amine group. "One must remember that the term "essential" has nothing to do with the meaning of needed, or required. The word's origin is essence, something with an odor or smell. Thus, the essential oils are those oils that have a fragrance, and the Essential Amphetamines are those compounds that can, in principle, be made from them by the addition of ammonia in the body."[4]

    The Ten Essential Amphetamines are:

    1. The 4-methoxy pattern.
    2. The 3,4-dimethoxy pattern.
    3. The 3,4-methylenedioxy pattern.
    4. The 3-methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy pattern.
    5. The 2-methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxy pattern.
    6. The 3,4,5-trimethoxy pattern.
    7. The 2,4,5-trimethoxy pattern.
    8. The 2,5-dimethoxy-3,4-methylenedioxy pattern.
    9. The 2,3-dimethoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy pattern.
    10. The tetramethoxy pattern.

    Botanical and mycological - White

    Morning glory

    Is my text valid?: https://psychonautwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Morning_glory&oldid=135434#Common_misconception

    Conservation status

    Should we include IUCN Red List our botanical templates like Wikipedia?

    Example of cactus:

    Genus

    @White: Some of the items listed in Category:Botany don't follow our standard: @White: Can we discuss this now? I'm in the channel.

    "(botany)" should be replaced with "(genus)", right?:

    Finally. Deliriant plant‎ is a duplication of Solanaceae (family)‎.

    Please keep in mind that all links in the "What links here" page for each article has to updated. --David Hedlund (talk) 21:27, 7 January 2018 (CET)

    Salvia (genus)

    Start Salvia (genus): <ref>{{cite journal|last1=Hatipoglu|first1=SD|last2=Yalcinkaya|first2=B|last3=Akgoz|first3=M|last4=Ozturk|first4=T|last5=Goren|first5=AC|last6=Topcu|first6=G|title=Screening of Hallucinogenic Compounds and Genomic Characterisation of 40 Anatolian Salvia Species.|journal=Phytochemical analysis : PCA|date=November 2017|volume=28|issue=6|pages=541-549|doi=10.1002/pca.2703|pmid=28722248}}</ref>

    Subjective effect index (SEI) - Josikins

    "Do not edit any article in the subjective effect index."

    Josikins is in charge of Subjective effect index (SEI)

    My issues:

    Positive effects

    Altered states of consciousness

    Responsible use

    Responsible drug use index
    Warning.svg


    Side effects

    @Josikins: Is this list something for you? --David Hedlund (talk) 05:58, 22 December 2017 (CET)

    Some of the side effects only form after habitual use.

    Top side effects

    patientsville 50 top side effects

    Other notable side effects

    David Hedlund

    UserWiki pages

    DL-choline bitartrate

    Ogg files

    https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/File:DiPT_replication_of_Shulgin's_DiPT_speach.ogg doesn't work because https://psychonautwiki.org/w/images/c/cd/DiPT_replication_of_Shulgin%27s_DiPT_speach.ogg doesn't exist any longer for unknown reason. Are .ogg files not permitted?

    Site standardization

    • Should psychoactive substance pages always carry this even if they are without references?:
    ==References==
{{references}}
<references/>

{{references}} will show a book saying: "Question book-new.svg This article does not cite enough references. You can help by adding some."

    The template is used on Nicotiana_(botany) but not on Talk:Psilocybe_hispanica_(mycology). I want to standardize the pages.

    Pharmaceutical

    Wikipedia links

    See also

    1. ↑ "Volatile Nitrites - Special Subjects - Merck Manuals Professional Edition". Merck Manuals Professional Edition. 
    2. ↑ Stamets, Paul (1996). The field guide to psilocybin mushrooms of the world (1st print., 1996. ed.). Berkeley, Calif.: Ten Speed Press. ISBN 978-0898158397. 
    3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 Iseger TA, Bossong MG (2015). "A systematic review of the antipsychotic properties of cannabidiol in humans". Schizophr. Res. 162 (1–3): 153–61. doi:10.1016/j.schres.2015.01.033. PMID 25667194. 
    4. ↑ "Read #157 TMA | PiHKAL · info". isomerdesign.com (in English). 
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