Talk:Kratom

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Insomnia/Wakefulness

After 5 years of sometimes daily kratom use, I have consistently noticed that high doses of any strain can produce insomnia. Trying to sleep on a heavy dose will produce a sort of light nod combined with the "waking dream" state commonly associated with morphine. I would like to add a "Wakefulness" entry in the effect profile, but I don't want to go so far without some external go-ahead. Can I do it?

@Aurelian This sounds like a reasonable addition to me. Go for it :) Clarity (talk) 02:13, 2 June 2017 (CEST)

First cite flag

Is it really needed? If it's been demonstrated, easily knowable, and is mentioned within the article and directly implied, is it really necessary? I'm not sure here. --Corticosteroid (talk) 18:22, 20 October 2017 (CEST)

Explanation that kratom has also helped people with alcohol and benzo addiction.

For me, personally, and a few people that I've talked to on Reddit's 'kratom' sub, kratom has been a lifesaver when used as a harm reduction strategy to stop drinking alcohol and stop taking benzodiazapines. This is my post on Reddit, in case anyone is interested: https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Kratom

This is also my first time 'editing' or adding something to a wiki-page so please excuse any mistakes or if this is off-topic. Will gladly correct. Long time fan and reader of PsychonautWiki! From back when you all had a 'chat' function! Keep up the good work!

small edit suggestion

"Hepatoxic" should be changed to hepatotoxic as the former is not a recognized word.

  • fixed. thanks. --White (talk) 09:45, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Interactions addition

Kratom inhibits multiple enzymes such as CYP2D6, CYP3A4, and CYP1A2. Some anticoagulant and blood thinner medications, Rivaroxaban for example, rely on the CYP3A4 enzyme as a major metabolic pathway. Those on these medications who are considering taking kratom should be aware of this and I believe blood thinner / anticoagulants should be added to the list of interactions. I'm not sure if this edit qualifies as a dangerous interaction, and it certainly is not for all opiates so how would this edit be made to be specific to kratom. What does the community think?

Strains section incorrect. Common misunderstanding in kratom

Hey there, kratom strains are not made like that.

Quote from reddit: "The veins are generally red when they're small and young, and if anyone says that all kratom veins are red means they are harvesting too early to meet demands. Because the veins will turn green when properly matured. With that said, the color is completely irrelevant other than for judging the maturity of the leaf."

Red is basically fermented leaves and green is air dryed leaves. Gold/yellow (which is missing) is fermented and air dryed.

White is a mixture of red and green with bones(veins), which are stimulating.

Bones are the leaf veins, which are stimulating and usually not included in kratom except for whites.

Strains are not different species. Strains are blends of different types of kratom, and they can vary between vendors.

Source (with pictures and videos that convinced me): https://www.reddit.com/r/kratom/comments/fcwhen/the_truth_on_strains_and_production_personally/

Javgat (talk) 01:49, 2 September 2020 (UTC)